Jesus Lives! – The Lord God Jesus Christ: Creator, Sustainer and Redeemer of Heaven and Earth
|Old Christianity||New Christianity|
|God is divided into three persons, who are somehow “one”||God is one Supreme Being, one Person: Jehovah. He is Being and Existence itself, and cannot be divided into separate “persons.”|
|The Son is the “second person” who descended and was born as Jesus Christ||The human body born in time, derived from the virgin Mary, is the Son of God|
|Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three persons||Jesus is Jehovah in human form, and simply calls God his Father as he was born of a virgin with no human father. See The False Belief of a Trinity of three beings: TRITHEISM|
|The Trinity of three persons existed from eternity||The Trinity is NOT three persons. There is a trine of soul, body, and spirit in each human. The Holy Trinity came about When Jehovah became incarnate in a human form.|
|Among Catholics, when Mary was born she was free from “original sin” (known as the Immaculate Conception).||Mary was like any other human person, and was born in sin. She was however highly spiritual. Swedenborg does offer explanations for the Marian apparitions within the Catholic church (hard to summarize here). Prayer should only be focused on Jesus Christ.|
|Jesus was also born perfect||Jesus, initially, was like any other human. The body derived from Mary had sinful tendencies, by which Jesus could be tempted. But his soul was Divine and could not sin. Through Jesus, a spiritual war arose between Jehovah and all of hell.|
|Various Christological disputes about whether or not Jesus has one nature (Divine) or two natures (Divine and human)||Jesus initially had two natures, the external human nature that had sinful tendencies, and a Divine soul. Gradually the human was absorbed and Jesus became a “Divine Human” or “God Man”.|
|Among Catholics, Mary is known as the “mother of God.”||Mary was the mother of the human vessel of Jesus. Initially Mary was his mother, but once the human was absorbed the human became Divine. It is this human body which is the Son of God. As the human was made Divine, Mary is no longer the mother of Jesus.|
|God was angry and wrathful with humanity for their sin||God is love itself, and can never be angry. He appears “angry” to those who turn against Him.|
|God seeks to punish us for our sin||God created a law of Divine order where each sin contains within it its own punishment. These laws are designed to lead man back to good.|
|Various theological debates about the meaning of the Eucharist ritual, the body and blood of Jesus Christ||The Eucharist ritual is symbolic. Symbolic rituals conjoin the human mind with heaven. The body represents God’s love, the blood his truth. The Eucharist is the central ritual because Jesus made his very body Divine|
|Jesus had to suffer and die as “payment” for our sins. Our sins were transferred onto him.||Everyone is responsible for their own actions. Sins are removed by repentance. The sins that Jesus bore are the ones he inherited from his mother Mary|
|Jesus saved humanity from a wrathful God by taking on punishment to satisfy this “legal debt.”||Jesus saved humanity by making his very human Divine. Once the human was made Divine, the Holy Spirit could flow through him to other humans|
|Jesus saved humanity by his death on the cross where sins were somehow “transferred” to him.||Jesus saved humanity by gradually making his human Divine, and resisting temptation. The cross was simply the last temptation before he made his human Divine.|
|Among Protestants, all one has to do is “believe” to be saved. Good works mean nothing.||Protestants have misinterpreted the writings of Paul, who was talking about the external Mosaic rituals, due to Judaizers at the time. Belief alone is a “devilish faith.” Faith means “living by the truth,” not mere belief. See The Fundamental Error of the Protestant Faith|
|Among Protestants, sins are supposedly removed by a lip confession and belief||Sins can only be removed through repentance, or turning away from them and living by God’s commandments.|
|Among Protestants, salvation is “free” and “unconditional.”||Salvation is dependent on whether or not one lives by God’s commandments|
|Among Protestants, the 10 commandments are abrogated||The 10 commandments are based on the two great commandments of Jesus: love God, and love your neighbor. Only the Sabbath was changed from a day of rest to a day of worship and instruction.|
|Certain Messianic Jews seek a return to the Mosaic rituals||The external Mosaic rituals of the Jews have been abrogated. They along with the Jewish people were a symbolic representative form of the Christian Church|
|Among Protestants, grace means “unmerited” favor.||This is false: scripture shows God has favor to those who live by his commandments. Mercy and grace describe God’s love for each person to save them. See The False Theological Definition of the word “Grace”|
|Atonement means somehow God will no longer see the sins you commit and will see the righteousness of Jesus||God will always know a person for who he or she is. “Atonement” describes the spiritual protection one obtains from evil temptations after repentance and obeying God’s commandments. Also see What is Blood Atonement or Vicarious Atonement?|
|One is sanctified by the blood of Jesus||The blood is symbolic of the life of Jesus, and his outflowing spirit of Divine Truth. One is sanctified by living according to the Divine Truth|
|Among Protestants, man has the capacity to do nothing through their own will. Everyone is passive, God does everything||Inasmuch one resists sin and turns away from evil, and lives by the truth, one will eventually desire to do good out of love. Inasmuch one approaches God with their whole heart, God’s spirit will dwell within them. All goodness and love comes from God, but each person must be an active willing participant.|
|Among Catholic, ultimate authority is placed in the priesthood. Among Protestants, ultimate authority is placed in scripture||The Protestants are correct: scripture contains within it the Word of God and is the ultimate authority. Interpretation of scripture, however, is influenced by doctrine. A reading of scripture with an open heart opens a connection between the mind and heaven, according to one’s understanding|
|The Catholic Church claims that through Peter, the Papacy is the “Vicar” of Christ and there is a direct line of succession||Catholics have misinterpreted a symbolic reference to Peter in scripture. Moreover, the decree of Chalcedon declaring Christ has two natures was done so that the Papacy could claim to be the Vicar of Christ on earth. However, what was revealed is that the Catholic church was allowed to be dominant for a time through Divine Providence, in order to remove various heresies from the Christian Church.|
|The Bible is the “literal” and “inerrant” Word of God.||Hidden behind the literal sense of the Bible there is a symbolic spiritual meaning. In the literal sense there are many “appearances” of truth that are not literally true.|
|Among Protestants there are 66 books that are equally Divinely Inspired; Catholics also have additional “Deuterocanonical” works not found in the Masoretic.||The canon of the Bible is defined as those books which contain an internal symbolic spiritual sense. The canon of the Old Testament closely follows the Jewish Canon of the Law (Torah), the Prophets (Nevi’im) and the Psalms, but many books of the writings are not inspired. In the New Testament, only the Gospels and Revelation are inspired. However the writings of Paul were included for instruction of the masses.|
|Among literalists, the world was created in seven days||The seven days of creation are symbolic of seven stages of spiritual development|
|Among literalists, we are all descended from Adam and Eve||The story of Adam and Eve is symbolic of how the first church established here on earth eventually turned away and lost direct communion with heaven. Mankind is much older than what Biblical chronology presents; the first 11 chapters of Genesis are highly symbolic.|
|We all have “original sin” from Adam and Eve (plus other types of sin from Catholic theologians.)||Our evil nature is distinguished between what we have successively inherited from our parents and ancestors, and the sins we commit by choice. One will be judged by the actions one committed by choice according to the intent and one’s knowledge.|
|Many believe in a heaven and hell. Catholics also subscribe to the concept of “Purgatory” – an area between heaven and hell.||A very detailed description of the spiritual world from firsthand visions, which includes heaven, hell, and an area in between known as the “world of spirits” which is closely associated with those still alive. This waiting area is similar to Purgatory, but different than what is described by many Catholics.|
|Certain denominations believe that after death, one just “falls asleep” to await a literal physical resurrection.||After death, the spiritual body – human in form – withdraws and separates from its physical body. One could go to heaven or hell, but others are not ready and wait for a time in the world of spirits, some close to a state of sleep. There is no literal physical resurrection – one rises from the dead in a spiritual body. Only Jesus physically rose from the dead.|
|For those who believe in a “wrathful” God, he condemns sinners to eternal torment in hell||We all go where we want to go, according to our desire. We are judged according to our conscience. Evil punishes itself, not God. The burning of hell is due to the burning of hatred and jealousy. The joys of heaven are according to one’s love. There is an automatic separation between those in heaven and hell, according to order.|
|Many subscribe to a future “end of the world” where there will be this last judgment of all mankind on earth.||There is no literal “end of the world.” There is an end to each church or age or dispensation. A church ends when it becomes corrupt, and a new revelation is then given. A this time a final judgment occurs in the spiritual world – in the region of the world of spirits between heaven and hell where those who sleep are awakened and judged at this time. These “last” judgments have occurred at certain key moments in the history of spiritual development on earth. Those in heaven and hell already are not judged|
|One is judged according to one’s belief system or religion.||One is judged according to how one lived one’s life according to your conscience. The more you know, the more responsibility you have. Those who have done good, and yet knew little, can still be taught in heaven.|
|There will be a kingdom of God on earth||The true kingdom of God is in heaven, and in one’s heart. However there is a reflection of this kingdom of God on earth: it is the community of the Church.|
|Some religious people think we should just withdraw from the world and pray and worship||The physical world is not evil, but can be a reflection of the heavenly life if one lives according to God’s laws. One lives a spiritual life by being practical and useful to the common good in everyday life.|
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Thank you for sharing this God bless
You write “God is divided into three persons, who are somehow “one”” thsi may apply for Christendom but never for Christianity. In Christianity you have the real followers of Jesus Christ who believe in the same God Jesus believed into and prayed to, the Only One true God of Israel, the God of Abraham, Jecob and Isaac, Who is a singular Ruach Ha Kodesh.
You also speak about a New Truth. We are very happy it may be for you a New Truth, but it is a Truth as old as the streets, having been the Truth for lots of Christians already from the first century of this common era.
In real Christianity Jesus is not at all Jehovah in human form, like you write, but Jesus is simply the one who calls God his Father as was born of a virgin with no human father and whose heavenly Father declared him toe be the only begotten beloved son of God.
In True Christianity there is no place at all for the false teachings of a trinity neither a binairy god.
we do not know where you get it from that “The story of Adam and Eve is symbolic of how the first church established here on earth”. It is the explanation of how man rebelled against God and how this aversion made man subject to the consequences of his own decisions or faults, and how man came under the curse of death and why god provided a solution in the one who He had sent later to mankind and restored the broken relationship.
The true kingdom of God is not only in heaven, and in one’s heart” like you suggest, it is a reality for all the universe (all planets and all heavens or cosmic atmospheres) with for mankind here on earth the establishment of the Holy Land of which Jeshua (Jesus Christ) shall be the king.
Heaven and hell is not a place you to, its something you become, its a mental state of mind, read some of my other posts for more awareness and insight on spiritual matters then you will know what i mean by new truth, the literal sence of the word has multi dimemsional levels of understanding,
One more thing, if its old truth then why don’t most people accept it, its new truth to those who were blind to it,
Most people do prefer to keep to human dogma’s and human traditions, that is why the main Christian denomination still thrive so much.
Yes many will claim his name, but will deny him in action, thats what i mean by false christianity but anyways theres a major paradigm shift taken place out there that will expose there false precepts,
We hope so.
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thought id share this post with you on the trinity, since i came across one of yours on your site
CAN THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY GHOST SIT ON THREE DIFFERENT CHAIRS?
This cannot be answered without a rational discussion of the Holy Trinity. This theological topic, more than any other, confuses the heck out of serious and religious thinking people.
Orthodox Christianity describes the Holy Trinity as three divine persons. Although they attempt to recover and restore the notion of one God (Christianity is supposed to be monotheistic) by saying that the three divine Persons of Trinitarian doctrine consist of one unified substance, still, one is left with the notion that these three Gods could sit in three different chairs.
When I have pointed to the illogicality of such an ambiguous notion of God, its defenders (including those with Ph.Ds) say that it is a “Great Mystery” and warn me that my mind should not even be going into such directions.
My answer to that is “zc@#$%*&>?+<#x<!”
Now that I have gotten that off my chest I can put my emotions aside and return to a more pragmatic discussion of this matter. When I say my prayers at night, I want to know exactly to whom I am addressing (and not have to guess whether I am focusing on the correct chair or the proper Deity).
I know that Jesus said that the only way to the Father was through Him (the Son) but then Jesus does an about face by teaching the Lord’s Prayer which completely bypasses the Son and allows us to pray directly to the Father.
So, with the Lord’s Prayer in hand, who needs Jesus?
But Orthodox Christianity, which embraces the sacred Trinity as three Persons, insists we are first to put our faith in Jesus. In this way the righteousness of the Son can be imputed to us humans by the Father, then the Holy Spirit shows up to set into motion the operation of justification, which magically wipes all our sins away, renews our spirit, and completes our salvation.
In other words, each Divine Person cannot claim to be fully God, as each does something that the other two don’t. If it takes three Persons to give us an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent God, well, to be frank, that is not my idea of monotheism.
I prefer Emanuel Swedenborg’s version of the Divine Trinity as ONE GOD manifesting three distinct operations and functions. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit represent not three persons but the three operations of Divine Love, Divine Truth, and Divine Activity.
Truth makes love visible. That is why the Lord came into the world – to make the Love of the Father visible to us by taking on a human form. Jesus is Jehovah!
One might wonder how God could take on an imperfect and gross human body. According to Swedenborg, that was God’s precise strategy for salvation. The purpose of coming into the world was to make His human form perfectly divine by doing the will of the Father (the Father was His Divine Soul) and combating the worldly desires of the flesh and worldly temptations.
Why did God have to implore such a strategy instead of fighting evil straight on?
Without taking on a human body an Infinite God cannot be realistically attacked by any evil. A human body provided the medium by which the Lord was vulnerable to attack by both people on earth and by the entire powers of hell. The appearance of the Holy Spirit (as a dove) when Jesus was baptized was a sign from heaven that the operation of harmonizing his human side by means of the higher influence of His Divine Nature was about to begin.
This process of overcoming the flesh and its proclivities (especially love of self and the world) involved profound humiliation before the Father (which represented His Divine Spirit and its ultimate dictates).
The Lord’s biggest challenge on the cross was not enduring physical pain or physical death but His not giving in to the human part of His nature – which tempted Him to get off the cross as a show of absolute strength to men and women and compel belief. By resisting this final temptation and achieving profound humility He united His human nature with the Divine Nature and made them one (the Alpha and Omega). What died on the cross were all His human imperfections.
This complete victory over the flesh gave the Lord full power over hell, which was increasing its deadly influence in the world at the time of His Advent. We were not saved by this event but the door to salvation was kept open. When we approach the Lord to change our lives His Divine Heavenly Spirit (not a dove) starts a similar process of renewal and regeneration within us. The Lord will help us combat our negative nature and find true humility.
If God chose to sit in three chairs we would see the same person (the Lord) on all three.
How does that sit with you? Did I pull a chair right out from under your faith-system?
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Posted on August 15, 2008 by thegodguy